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when I see
the Entrepreneurs
when I came to the SME
I always feel excited
because when I joined
the SME conference
I see from the eyes
the dreams
the passions
the hopes
when I joined
the fortune 500 conference
among of seriously
I see the number
I see the revenue
I see the KPI’s
I see the bloody competition
but among of the SME
you see
I have a dream
I want do something
and that happens
all the time
and that make me excited
all the time
and today
I think last 2 years
everybody say
wow
the economic is in troube
and we are all dead
and what we can I do?
and today
everybody seem to be happy
seem economic come back
It’s really economic come back?
I don’t think so
The money is gone to big companies
the money go to infrastructures
the money go back to the stock market
It’s seems nobody learned from that
how can the economic come back?
if the SME is not come back
how can the economic come back?
if the dream are not come back
the hopes are not come back
I saw one thing that
view days you know
two days ago
I dinner with my Singapore friends
they said singopre government
is encouraging to have more babies
because you know
people aging and not enough kids
I think the SME
we
every economy
every nations
needs incentive package
to have more small medium-sized companies
to have more hopes
it’s every big company
comes from the small business
if without hope
without this kind of
more babies
we gonna die
Why I always be excited?
I have 8 babies
in the far past 15 years
I build up 8 companies
7 of them very healthy
1 of them I sewed it
and I keep the baby
and I look at my babies
Alibaba, taobao, alipay
and now
the company that would I have
ali cloud
we just had a new baby two months ago
I always be excited
because you see the hope
you know
this baby is gonna change to me
this baby is gonna to change the world
can change to the customers
and that’s the thing
that always be excited
if you want be happy
have more babies
if you are the government
once the economy to be good
have more SMEs
these are the dreams
these are the hopes
these are the future
so this is
what I always
want I want a say
but enough…
we’ve been crying
say please give us support
but all the SMEs
ask court serve
one question?
we are not crying babies
we believe we’re tomorrow’s google
We believe we’re tomorrow ebay, youtube
we believe we’re tomorrow’s ups
if we believe we are
we can be
if you don’t believe
you never be
we heard a lot of government
say
I give you
and let me know
what can I do?
let me know
what we can helped the SME?
we heard a lot of banks
say
well
we being
your know
giving loans
to a lot of SMEs
I heard some banks
say wow
one of
the bank president
said
well
we give like 20,000,000
you know 200,000,000,000
or a million dolloar to the SMEs
I said what’s the size
of the loan you give?
$ 20,000,000
how can say the 20,000,000?
as the research I got
form Alibaba group
Alibaba status
87%
of the SMEs
what they need
is
the found
is below USD 60,000
but they are giving loans
to $ 20,000,000
to some big company
they are not SME
they are not the hopes
but
I think
all the SME say
let, nobody can help you
my 8 companies
I would say
nobody help us
only we can help ourserves
don’t rely on the government
don’t rely on the bank
forget about that
rely your friends
rely on relatives
rely on the small dreams
and always keep that thing in tied.
because
I think tried very hard
to get loans from banks
always trouble
when the past 10 years
I even do not borrow 1 cent
from banks
my kids grow up
I don’t know why?
and the bank show see
because we don’t have enough
information from the SMEs
tell me!
any fortune 500?
any big bank?
CEO’s president?
go to the SME summit? No
they go to SEO summit
right?
How could you get information?
if you do not go there
listen to them
talk to them
share experience with them
to see
what they need is
only USD 50,000
instead of $ 20,000,000
how can you get enough information?
so
I think
well
Tenda
we discuss yesterday
say
banks are banks
they always
have to control the risk
right
so
governement
bank
let’s think
about something new
new financial structure
that can really help those
millions of hopes small companies
that need USD 50,000
what is the right structure?
what is the right organization?
to support them
that’s the thing we should think about
so the other thing
I wanna share with you here
is always I believe
the small is beautiful
and this financial crisis
and give a lot of a disaster
to big companies
this war in to 21st the century
I think in last 2 century
it’s biggest is better
you have
a big
you know
Factory
big amount
and you know everything is big is good
this century
in the 21st century
I always believe
small is beautiful
because
it’s not how fast you’re machines is?
It’s not how many equipment you have?
It is how quickly
you can change yourself
to meet the market
because
the information time
internet
technology
make it difference
so
the world IT
in the last centuries
is designed
for manufacture
and this century
IT
is designed
for
making
to help
the consumers
So
I think
this is a disaster
for big companies
Since disaster
for big companies
but it is a great opportinity
for small business
for this financial crisis
we see a lot of big companies
where never though
they would die
AIG
it’s list
like Empire
how could that happened?
right?
All the G
and you know
the big car companies
which we respect
we always want to be there
but today they all died
and let look at the SMEs
we still feel painful
but we are happy in our heart
because we still survive
and we heard so many stories
about big companies giving trouble
and I see
the society
the government
paid to much attention
to this big trouble makers
They are the trouble makers
and we give them enough support
let them die
it’s the time for them to die
because they make trouble
every big company they have
difference plot disaster
difference problems
but all the SMEs
have the same problem
they need understanding
the support
this world is not fair
I KNOW
so that why
I want encouraging
everyone all the SME here
I am an SME
I have 8 kids
I am still as an SME
I still believe I’m a small
because when I am small
I know I can be big
and I hate to be big
Unfortunatelly
when I was a small company
only have 10-20 peoples
I feel so excited
wow I can call every employer’s name
and I know everything I want to change
I can changing within couple of minute
now… oh terrible
when I am in 20 years old
my friend said
your company
is not big enough
if you’ve a big
you are like a big boss
you are easy
right?
you can control your time
no…
my times is not a control by myself
my times is controlled by
all the meeting
a secreteries
a KPI
a shareholders
and all the things
It’s much tougher
than when you are a small
So I always believe
the first day love
is very beautiful
believe the fisrt day love
believe when you’re small
at least
you can have time
to go out to go to cinema
with your wife
and the kids
and enjoy
wonderful view
But when you’re big
you always go to board meetings
and also I wanna a say that the
I give you some today
I come here people say
Jack, you did not prepare
why you don’t have ppt?
I never prepare ppt
you know
I’m not a good at technology
I was trained
to be a high school teacher
and
the only thing
I can know about
the computer
funny things
I’m a running
the one of the biggest
the e-commerce companies
in china and leaving the world
but I know nothing about computer
the only thing I can know
about computer
a send, receive, email and browse
that’s it
because
I always a technology for people
people not working for technology
but
today
I come here as enterpreneur
I am prepare every day
I am not prepare for the ppt
because every time I use ppt
sometime wrong
I can’t use it
so
I come here to tell you
my own experience
I want share with you
as 8 kids father
what I did
when I have trouble
when I have a trouble
I always remind me
once
three things
Focus on your Customer
Serve your employees
and learn from the competitors
these are the P issue
that I learned
focus to the customer
everyboday today talking about
shareholder number one
I hate that
I think it’s always customer number one
It’s customer give you the money
It’s customer gives you the innovation
It’s customer that make you happy
because
year 1999 and year 2000
when internet bubble burst
we can’t get any money
we don’t have reveneus
we have nothing
but everyday
what I encourage to meet go on
with letter of things and emails
from my customes
say
Jack
Alibaba
keep on
because you helped us
something will help you
that’s the dream I had
So
today
we believe shareholder number one
you only think about making numbers
you only think about reveneus
you only think about
how can make your stock market go up?
and
I let you know
no shareholders can be trusted
I tell you the truth
well
our shares stock price
the over 2 years ago
we’re listed in a HKD 13.5
before that listing day
a lot of shareholders comes say
Jack, we long-term shareholder
please give us more shares
we will keep it
when the financial crisis time came
and the day when IPO 13.5 went up to $40
without doing anything good
without did 24 hours
and then financial crisis came
$40 to $3 without doing anything bad
they all gone
Most the shareholder
the share trader
how can you trust on them?
So
rely your customer
because the
customers stay with you
customers grow up with you
customers give the money
give the hope
give you the support
So
focus on customers
and second is
rely and serve your employer
it’s your employees
it’s your team
that make the difference
that the employees
that make all the dream realized
if we say
well
you know
we have
so many
a problem
and say
you know
big companies
have
a problem
in getting
the
innovation
how to make things happen?
well
because you do not listen
to the employers
They focus too much on the shareholder
the shareholders they give you
this idea, that idea
when you really do that idea
they are gone
and they change all the time
but your employees stay with you
I remember the tough days
what
was
so difficult
years
2002
2001
there’s only
one group of people
that stay with me
that’s
my colleagues
and people say Jack
you don’t have to pay me for 2 years
I will still stay in the company
because you respect us
because the customers love us
and I tell you one funny thing
every
you only way you believe
your employees is talents
they are talented to the people
if you don’t believe them
they will never be
My mistake I made
when I was year 2000
we raised the USD 5,000,000
and that’s USD 5,000,000
when we have money
we start to make mistake
I try to hire
as many talents as possible
those talents are MBA
those talents are vice precident
of multinational company
because I beleive if you MBA
it must be good, right?
but when I hire this guys
oh my God
It’s terrible
these guy came tell you strategy
I only have $ 5,000,000
I remember one of my vice president marketing
said
Jack, this is budget
for the next 2 years marketing
I say what is that?
USD 12,000,000
as I only have 5,000,000
as I never done
any plan below 10,000,000
When something wrong
it’s always your fault
because you never lose
so
try to find the right people
not the best to the people
all employees
try to find
so
if you try
to hire great people
in your own company
which your company
is not good enough
at that time
just like prop boing 7
if you want put a boing 7.7
in to prop tractor
when that goes
proptractor
nevel fly
in to pieces
so
my suggestion is that
look at your employees
develop to them
Only when they are developed
your company will be developed
the day when I a hill
we create a moment
a thousand millionaires
at least in the company
are all the guys setting in the room
we had a chat I say
ask to me!
now tell to me one thing!
why you are so successfull?
why we are so successfull?
when we are 20’s
we become millionaire
what happen?
are we?
we are very hardworking people?
I think they are much more
hardworking people outside
Do you think we are smart enough?
Ooh, at least I am not smart
I am take 3 years
3 times to go to university
I failed all the times
and I don’t think I’m smart
I don’t think you are smart
and at that time in years 2000
it was so difficult to for alibaba
to hire people
if they are not very that much disabled
we hire them
if they can walk we hire them
because nobody believe the internet
nobody believe ecommerce
will working in china
nobody believe
that
you know
internet can happen
but these guys
because they have no jobs
so she want come here
so they joint the company
and then
those MBAs
those people with great
you know
beckround
they
have
a lot of
headhunting company
they move out
they start their own business
now
today
they are all failed
those guys
nobody headhunting them
those guys
never set up
a have a dreams
to build up to have own companies
stay in the company
after 5 years
we succeed
why?
We keep our dream
We believe it
No matter how big your dream is?
Make small tiny step a head
and grow with them
grow with the company
so
my mistake year 2001
I told to my 18 founders
I said
you guys can only be team manager
all the VP’s
I will hire from outside
now
10 years pass
all the wonderful people
I hire outside
100% gone
and those
which I think
how could you be successful?
they all
become VPs and directors
they are all powerfull
because they believe they can
so
I want to tell everybody here
we are small
but care your employees
these are the people
they have famous
they have dreams
they come here not only for the jobs
they come here with a dreams
to get share with you
and the 3rd thing is
learn from competitors
don’t hate the competitors
big companies hate competitors
I love my competitors
without competitors
we never growth
that much best
year 2003
when we start
e
you know taobao
is a situs auction model
ebay my competitor at that time
is $ 80,000,000,000 market cap
we
you know
small tiny
how start to compete?
it’s a lot of fun
to compete with big guys
you know
if I start to have
a boxing with
Mike Tyson
I am honored
you know
if you have
a chance to compete with somebody
it’s a great competitor
you learn
we learn from our competitors
we respect them
everything they move
you growth
and other thing
I want share with you is that
competitor is
the best laboratory for you
because competitor state you
any innovated ideas they come?
you learn that
don’t copy them
learn from them
so
I love my competitors
every time when I look at them
I wish in the mind
but I
in china
people say
Jack, you are so crazy
because
4 years ago
I said
when I look my telescope
I never seen my competitors
and people say
how could be that?
how how know?
and I see now I am looking for
examples
modul
why should I am looking for competitor?
competitor are everywhere
and
when you compete
having fun
the most interesting part
of the business is competition
to make your competitors angry
to make your competitors jumping around
thats the skill you should have
not make yourself jumping around and angry
right?
business is such a great fun
when you compete
when I compete
if I got angry
if I am jumping around
I know something wrong
because this is
a wrong strategy to compete
when you compete
you know
not not not
purpose let make
competitor unhappy
if they are unhappy
if they jumping around
if they start use moneny
to kill anything
you start a win
because they start lose money
when competitor start using money
to compete with you
they start a lose
Business is about wisdom
Business is about hope
Business is about courage
So
these are all those sklills
and I
nobody confidence
I learn to use my right hand
to convert my left to hand
when I am in a trouble
You always tell yoursef
OK
I am still surviving
I am still growing
Everythings is good
At least
I am still surviving
right?
so when you are big
you start to worry
about losing something
when small
you start to grow
so
I always beleive
small keep the hope
so
this are these things
I want share with you
and the last and most important
the things I want I say is
never ever give up your dreams
I almost
I think
we cannot eat food for 7 days
that you would die, right?
5 to 7 days
if you do not drink for 3 days
you die
if you do not breathe for 3 minutes
you die
but
if you lose hope, dream for 1 minute
you die
so I want a tell you
that I had problems
in the past 10 years
these days when I walked in china
when loook at the airport
a lot of books about me
about the alibaba
I feel
I few very nervous
because
this is another books
interview to me
this is the book
that all right
we are not that good
we are not that bad
but today
when you something
you know successful
they start to write
a good things about it
we made so many mistakes
the only book
that I dream
to write about
is alibaba
1001 mistakes
every mistakes
I think
you count
I made
and I know
you are make it too
because when I was doing business
everybody say
wow
this is
this is
this is the mistake you are
this guys gonna make
that guys gonna make
I’m never gonna make it
I tell you are make it
and you are make it
again again again
and when you make it
again again
don’t lose confidence
make it again
you’re win
that’s
all I did
I mean
nobody’s perfect
right?
so
I
almost
lose my confidence
in year 2002
I’ve a big trouble
with my team
in the USA
I learn from
a great consultant
a guy joined a company
Jack
alibaba doing international trade
International trade needs english
which country
is the best english you have?
if believable
USA, right?
now…
internet needs great technology
which country have the best technology?
we say hmmm USA
right?
and
where?
silicon valley
so we move our alibaba.com
to silicon valley
and when I arrived silicon valley
we I
we suddently realise something wrong
we hire the people
from miami
from new york
and from all the world
they all came to the
our silicon valley
and after 3 months
the real the problem is that
no body silicn valley know the trade
so what’s the point
have a good technology and english
we are not english society, right?
all the small medium size
companies across the board
they know exactly
what are you talking about?
but no matter how terrible english is?
right?
said I made a mistake
and I told the people say
sorry
it’s a mistake
let’s move back
so
after 2 months
we move to back from
to china again
the funnies thing is that
everybody was happy that
because internet in the boosting
they get a lot of option share
they got a lot of cash pay
and the funny find another job is easy
and nobody won’t to the shares
a great I give them 1 cent / share
no no no share I want a cash
that you know
they don’t believe the dreams
if they believe the dreams
give them the share 1 cent
if they don’t believe
I want a cash
let them go
and I was so disappointed
a lot of people we hire
they can not want
they want a cash
no matter how wonderfull
the the at that time
easy to raise money
people still want a cash
so
I say ok
let’s forget it
and I walk for a half and hour
on the beijing street
but my colleague was delay
and then
I talk myself
go to bed sleep
tomorrow again
now
we started
today
things change
so
I want a tell you
never ever give up your dreams
and today
I encourage myself and our team
and remind us one things that always
I want share with you
finish my speech
that
today is very difficult
tomorrow is much more difficult
but the day after tomorrow is very beautiful
most people die tomorrow evening
you never be able to see
the day of tomorrow sunshine
if you give up the hope
you have
you’re a nope
you’re not see it
if you give up
with the employees
you never see it
if you give up
your customers
you’re died
but if you give up
with shareholder
you will get
better one
thank you
Jack Ma – How to Make a Small Business Successful